article written by kathleen hallisey appearing on the website of the uk's times newspaper - the article does not appear (yet?
) to be in the print version.. kathleen hallisey is a senior solicitor at bolt burdon kemp, specialising in child abuse.
she acted on behalf of the claimant in the landmark case of a v watchtower [2015] ewhc 1722 (qb), the first judgment against the jehovah’s witnesses in the uk for historical sexual abuse.. in the article she refers to the wt uk child safeguarding policy - click here for a side-by-side 2012/2017 comparision of the document.
Half banana - "...Here’s the rub: to capitulate to secular law over the child abuse issue would expose a glaring inadequacy of Biblical wisdom... and Biblical wisdom is the premise for their existence."
Oh no, the wisdom of the Bible is infinite and amazing (sarcasm , of course)
Then Jesus said to them, "Give back to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." And they were amazed at him. (Mark 12:17)
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
Richard,
Always in the know. Are you a lowly publisher or a man with privileges in the congregation? Are you a low ranking Bethelite? Are you a high ranking Bethelite? Are you a hired public relations agent?
in another thread, one of our members made a comment that caught my attention.. i have been trying to put my finger on a practice amongst the org and witnesses in general.... as soon as someone does something well, accomplishes something, or excels at something, the atmosphere effectiveley 'kicks them in the gut' to bring them down.. anything that makes a person grow or develop is blatently discouraged and therefore self esteem is squashed!.
the constant message telling a witness to be 'humble' is designed to suck any sense of growth or 'betterment' out of a person..... therefore this leaves the average witness to be a blubbering mess of insecurity and instability completely dependant on the organization...kind of like a 'battered-wife' scenario.... .
Many JW's actually have a very high self esteem, which is constantly nurtured by the Watchtower. They are pioneers, elders, circuit overseers, etc. They are all company man/woman
one of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.
it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.
christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.
Vidiot:
Why do you have to ruin my dramatization?? Now I have to add..."in a town where quarantine is ineffective"
Wait... no need. The disease is going to kill everyone in that town anyways. The end result is the same, except that quarantine is a delayed death sentence that creates added risk for the rest of the world
one of the most persistent arguments for belief in god centres on the necessity of an ultimate law-giver and epitome of goodness.. a softer version is seen in the genuine concern that a loss of faith will result in a corresponding loss of a moral compass - a more strident argument links the existence of good and evil with proof of the reality of god.
it is often asserted that without god, moral decisions degenerate to nothing more than personal preferences and the victory of "might is right".. i want to succinctly lay out my response as an atheist, and show that a supreme being is not required for objective morality.. it is helpful to distinguish between absolute morality, objective morality and subjective morality.
christian apologists frequently conflate the first two, and secular debaters often fail to point out the difference.. theists who disagree on everything else, are unanimous that god is perfectly good.
@John Mann: I think the ultimate goal of morality is the well-being of people.
You re making progress. You are using a popular definition. At least it's better than "God's will"
But in the meantime some acts can be seen as immoral if you don't see the big picture.
Maybe not, now you are demonstrating the subjectivity of the whole issue. You found the need of the big picture that others don't see. It's your view versus others' view. Yours is better...of course. It's based on absolute morality.
Parents submitting children under painful treatment for instance. Sometimes an apparent evil is the only way to achieve a greater good.
Cherry picking? How about bombing to oblivion a town where a new, lethal and highly contagious disease has overwhelmed the population. The greater good is to prevent the spreading of the disease to the world. The amount of lives saved by bombing the town can easily be much greater than the lives killed in that town. What does absolute morality dictate to do?
listening to 2 of my current favorite thinkers debate/discussion.
i've been looking forward to this since i found out about it a month ago.
hope some of you get a chance to listen.
Hopefully they will have another podcast
What's the use. They may live in two different dimensions
listening to 2 of my current favorite thinkers debate/discussion.
i've been looking forward to this since i found out about it a month ago.
hope some of you get a chance to listen.
SBF I just wonder why... Sam Harris has to... make a pause after every... four words or so... without apparent regard... for sense or normal... speech patterns.
It's for the benefit of his audience so we can fully process his great ideas. Nothing to hide after all.
Peterson is intentionally a faster speaker so he impedes clarity and hides his incoherence
january 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.
everyone here knows there is a difference between the writing department and writing committee right.
Yep, you sound like a Witchtower insider
january 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.
Richrd Oliver: Menlo Park was it's [sic] own corporation with it's [sic] own bylaws and constitution
Given your indefensible comments, you most certainly work for the Witchtower, but you certainly are not part of the writing committee.
gorby went to the kh for family reasons today.. and landed right away middle in a pseudo history watchtower article.
just that aspect of the jw belief he is so sensative about.. so 1918 and 1919 are changed with one mark of a pencil.
the argument of change was in the past the argument of the doctrine.
I take it back. I read the link from shepherdless. They are staying a cult.
